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Tomasz Zieliński
Memcached 1.4.5 - memcached-init and memcached.sysv licenses
September 22, 2010 04:00AM
Hello,

I've noticed that the two scripts mentioned in the subject are
probably taken from some external
sources and licensed under different licenses than Memcached itself.

Memcached-init clearly says that it is taken from Debian. It's similar
to /etc/init.s/skeleton on my Ubuntu 9.04,
which belongs to initscripts package and that package is licensed
under GPL3.
Not sure which license applies to the memcached-init, but I suppose
it's either GPL2 or GPL3.

Regarding memcached.sysv, I found a similar script here:
http://killersoft-yum.googlecode.com/svn-history/r24/trunk/repo/SOURCES/memcached.sysv
- not sure who copied it from who, but in case killersoft-yum was
first - it's licensed under MIT license (http://code.google.com/p/
killersoft-yum/ -> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php).

Can someone responsible for this area comment on the topic?

--
Tomasz Zielinski
Uhhhm.

memcached-init is from:

commit 4b1b1ae76ef6e78dd3f1d753931ac8051ae99e9a
Author: Brad Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>
Date: Tue Dec 30 19:56:33 2003 +0000

I assume brad copied the skeleton files and modified it. IANAL so I'm not
sure how much of it had to be changed to be able to flip the license, but
it seems like a trivial script.

The sysv one is from:

commit 275f8c40705526ac4514d5dcff2cbf0311b540ac
Author: Paul Lindner <[email protected]>
Date: Fri May 4 11:23:02 2007 +0000

add rpm spec file, new sysv init script

So uh. Paul? Care to comment?

and finally, may I ask why you're finding this issue? Do you work for a
distro or are just curious? Or you're trying to package it up and sell it?
:P

On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Tomasz Zieliński wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've noticed that the two scripts mentioned in the subject are
> probably taken from some external
> sources and licensed under different licenses than Memcached itself.
>
> Memcached-init clearly says that it is taken from Debian. It's similar
> to /etc/init.s/skeleton on my Ubuntu 9.04,
> which belongs to initscripts package and that package is licensed
> under GPL3.
> Not sure which license applies to the memcached-init, but I suppose
> it's either GPL2 or GPL3.
>
> Regarding memcached.sysv, I found a similar script here:
> http://killersoft-yum.googlecode.com/svn-history/r24/trunk/repo/SOURCES/memcached.sysv
> - not sure who copied it from who, but in case killersoft-yum was
> first - it's licensed under MIT license (http://code.google.com/p/
> killersoft-yum/ -> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php).
>
> Can someone responsible for this area comment on the topic?
>
> --
> Tomasz Zielinski
>
I wrote the memcached sysv script and adapted it to fit fedora norms. No
worries there regarding license.

2010/9/25 dormando <[email protected]>

> Uhhhm.
>
> memcached-init is from:
>
> commit 4b1b1ae76ef6e78dd3f1d753931ac8051ae99e9a
> Author: Brad Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue Dec 30 19:56:33 2003 +0000
>
> I assume brad copied the skeleton files and modified it. IANAL so I'm not
> sure how much of it had to be changed to be able to flip the license, but
> it seems like a trivial script.
>
> The sysv one is from:
>
> commit 275f8c40705526ac4514d5dcff2cbf0311b540ac
> Author: Paul Lindner <[email protected]>
> Date: Fri May 4 11:23:02 2007 +0000
>
> add rpm spec file, new sysv init script
>
> So uh. Paul? Care to comment?
>
> and finally, may I ask why you're finding this issue? Do you work for a
> distro or are just curious? Or you're trying to package it up and sell it?
> :P
>
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Tomasz Zieliński wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've noticed that the two scripts mentioned in the subject are
> > probably taken from some external
> > sources and licensed under different licenses than Memcached itself.
> >
> > Memcached-init clearly says that it is taken from Debian. It's similar
> > to /etc/init.s/skeleton on my Ubuntu 9.04,
> > which belongs to initscripts package and that package is licensed
> > under GPL3.
> > Not sure which license applies to the memcached-init, but I suppose
> > it's either GPL2 or GPL3.
> >
> > Regarding memcached.sysv, I found a similar script here:
> >
> http://killersoft-yum.googlecode.com/svn-history/r24/trunk/repo/SOURCES/memcached.sysv
> > - not sure who copied it from who, but in case killersoft-yum was
> > first - it's licensed under MIT license (http://code.google.com/p/
> > killersoft-yum/ -> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php).
> >
> > Can someone responsible for this area comment on the topic?
> >
> > --
> > Tomasz Zielinski
> >
>



--
Paul Lindner -- lindner@inuus.com -- linkedin.com/in/plindner
Tomasz Zieliński
Re: Memcached 1.4.5 - memcached-init and memcached.sysv licenses
September 27, 2010 03:20PM
On 26 Wrz, 07:13, dormando <[email protected]> wrote:
> Uhhhm.
>
> memcached-init is from:
>
> commit 4b1b1ae76ef6e78dd3f1d753931ac8051ae99e9a
> Author: Brad Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>
> Date:   Tue Dec 30 19:56:33 2003 +0000
>
> I assume brad copied the skeleton files and modified it. IANAL so I'm not
> sure how much of it had to be changed to be able to flip the license, but
> it seems like a trivial script.

IANAL either, so I just try to no play the guess-game, even if a
script looks trivial :)

>
> The sysv one is from:
>
> commit 275f8c40705526ac4514d5dcff2cbf0311b540ac
> Author: Paul Lindner <[email protected]>
> Date:   Fri May 4 11:23:02 2007 +0000
>
>     add rpm spec file, new sysv init script
>
> So uh. Paul? Care to comment?
>
> and finally, may I ask why you're finding this issue? Do you work for a
> distro or are just curious? Or you're trying to package it up and sell it?
> :P

I'm working on a project that uses memcached and I'm trying to make
sure that
files I commit to VCS are legally safe.

Thanks for the bumping this topic!

>
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Tomasz Zieli�ski wrote:
> > Hello,
>
> > I've noticed that the two scripts mentioned in the subject are
> > probably taken from some external
> > sources and licensed under different licenses than Memcached itself.
>
> > Memcached-init clearly says that it is taken from Debian. It's similar
> > to /etc/init.s/skeleton on my Ubuntu 9.04,
> > which belongs to initscripts package and that package is licensed
> > under GPL3.
> > Not sure which license applies to the memcached-init, but I suppose
> > it's either GPL2 or GPL3.
>
> > Regarding memcached.sysv, I found a similar script here:
> >http://killersoft-yum.googlecode.com/svn-history/r24/trunk/repo/SOURC...
> > - not sure who copied it from who, but in case killersoft-yum was
> > first - it's licensed under MIT license (http://code.google.com/p/
> > killersoft-yum/ ->http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php).
>
> > Can someone responsible for this area comment on the topic?
>
> > --
> > Tomasz Zielinski
Tomasz Zieliński
Re: Memcached 1.4.5 - memcached-init and memcached.sysv licenses
September 27, 2010 03:20PM
On 27 Wrz, 01:14, Paul Lindner <[email protected]> wrote:
> I wrote the memcached sysv script and adapted it to fit fedora norms.  No
> worries there regarding license.

So, it's covered by Memcached license or that MIT license I
mentioned ?


>
> 2010/9/25 dormando <[email protected]>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Uhhhm.
>
> > memcached-init is from:
>
> > commit 4b1b1ae76ef6e78dd3f1d753931ac8051ae99e9a
> > Author: Brad Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>
> > Date:   Tue Dec 30 19:56:33 2003 +0000
>
> > I assume brad copied the skeleton files and modified it. IANAL so I'm not
> > sure how much of it had to be changed to be able to flip the license, but
> > it seems like a trivial script.
>
> > The sysv one is from:
>
> > commit 275f8c40705526ac4514d5dcff2cbf0311b540ac
> > Author: Paul Lindner <[email protected]>
> > Date:   Fri May 4 11:23:02 2007 +0000
>
> >    add rpm spec file, new sysv init script
>
> > So uh. Paul? Care to comment?
>
> > and finally, may I ask why you're finding this issue? Do you work for a
> > distro or are just curious? Or you're trying to package it up and sell it?
> > :P
>
> > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Tomasz Zieliński wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > > I've noticed that the two scripts mentioned in the subject are
> > > probably taken from some external
> > > sources and licensed under different licenses than Memcached itself.
>
> > > Memcached-init clearly says that it is taken from Debian. It's similar
> > > to /etc/init.s/skeleton on my Ubuntu 9.04,
> > > which belongs to initscripts package and that package is licensed
> > > under GPL3.
> > > Not sure which license applies to the memcached-init, but I suppose
> > > it's either GPL2 or GPL3.
>
> > > Regarding memcached.sysv, I found a similar script here:
>
> >http://killersoft-yum.googlecode.com/svn-history/r24/trunk/repo/SOURC...
> > > - not sure who copied it from who, but in case killersoft-yum was
> > > first - it's licensed under MIT license (http://code.google.com/p/
> > > killersoft-yum/ ->http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php)..
>
> > > Can someone responsible for this area comment on the topic?
>
> > > --
> > > Tomasz Zielinski
>
> --
> Paul Lindner -- lind...@inuus.com -- linkedin.com/in/plindner
Tomasz Zieliński
Re: Memcached 1.4.5 - memcached-init and memcached.sysv licenses
October 12, 2010 02:20AM
On 27 Wrz, 15:18, Tomasz Zieliński <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 27 Wrz, 01:14, Paul Lindner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I wrote the memcached sysv script and adapted it to fit fedora norms.  No
> > worries there regarding license.
>
> So, it's covered by Memcached license or that MIT license I
> mentioned ?

<bump> Just one simple answer and I go away :)

>
> > 2010/9/25 dormando <[email protected]>
>
> > > Uhhhm.
>
> > > memcached-init is from:
>
> > > commit 4b1b1ae76ef6e78dd3f1d753931ac8051ae99e9a
> > > Author: Brad Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>
> > > Date:   Tue Dec 30 19:56:33 2003 +0000
>
> > > I assume brad copied the skeleton files and modified it. IANAL so I'm not
> > > sure how much of it had to be changed to be able to flip the license, but
> > > it seems like a trivial script.
>
> > > The sysv one is from:
>
> > > commit 275f8c40705526ac4514d5dcff2cbf0311b540ac
> > > Author: Paul Lindner <[email protected]>
> > > Date:   Fri May 4 11:23:02 2007 +0000
>
> > >    add rpm spec file, new sysv init script
>
> > > So uh. Paul? Care to comment?
>
> > > and finally, may I ask why you're finding this issue? Do you work for a
> > > distro or are just curious? Or you're trying to package it up and sell it?
> > > :P
>
> > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Tomasz Zieliñski wrote:
>
> > > > Hello,
>
> > > > I've noticed that the two scripts mentioned in the subject are
> > > > probably taken from some external
> > > > sources and licensed under different licenses than Memcached itself..
>
> > > > Memcached-init clearly says that it is taken from Debian. It's similar
> > > > to /etc/init.s/skeleton on my Ubuntu 9.04,
> > > > which belongs to initscripts package and that package is licensed
> > > > under GPL3.
> > > > Not sure which license applies to the memcached-init, but I suppose
> > > > it's either GPL2 or GPL3.
>
> > > > Regarding memcached.sysv, I found a similar script here:
>
> > >http://killersoft-yum.googlecode.com/svn-history/r24/trunk/repo/SOURC....
> > > > - not sure who copied it from who, but in case killersoft-yum was
> > > > first - it's licensed under MIT license (http://code.google.com/p/
> > > > killersoft-yum/ ->http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php).
>
> > > > Can someone responsible for this area comment on the topic?
>
> > > > --
> > > > Tomasz Zielinski
>
> > --
> > Paul Lindner -- lind...@inuus.com -- linkedin.com/in/plindner
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