[PHP] PHP: a fractal of bad design

http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/

Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in a
dickish way.

On 4/11/2012 7:06 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
>
> Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in a
> dickish way.
>
Yes, he does have some good points and most, if not all, of those points
have been discussed on this list more than once. The problem with people
like this is that they choose not to contribute to solving the issues by
working with the dev team and perhaps even taking a leadership role.

I really am tired of hearing how "bad" PHP is. I use it every day and I
have used it for over a decade. Some things are difficult to accomplish
(re: the thread where Robert helped me tremendously over the past couple
of weeks). I have been tasked lately with updating and maintaining some
..net and classic ASP sites and believe me when I say that bad
programmers/developers make any language crap. I would love it of
languages were more consistent and concise across the board! For a
simple website C# is just as much overkill as anything else, not to
mention that the developer tools are expensive and come with a learning
curve all of their own.

Yes, there are nuances and inconsistencies. The same goes for any
language you care to trot out.

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On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 05:06:10PM -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
>
> Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in a
> dickish way.

Wow. I wish I could find something that complete for Javascript.

Paul

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2012/4/12 Daevid Vincent <[email protected]>:
> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
>
> Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in a
> dickish way.

Hi, Daevid

I think this discussion is incomplete without mentioning the feedback
from Anthony Ferrara:
http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2012/04/php-sucks-but-i-like-it.html

Bye
Simon

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Daevid Vincent <[email protected]> hat am 12. April 2012 um 02:06
geschrieben:

> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
>
> Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in
a
> dickish way.

Well, he only says what everybody knows. So there is no new thing in it.
And I don't understand why people use tools that they hate.

I do not dislike PHP because of its disadvantages, I like it because of its
advantages,


Marco Behnke
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:06:10 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

>http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
>
>Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in a
>dickish way.

"There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about
and the ones nobody uses." -- Bjarne Stroustrup
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Where's the "Like" button on this list? :)


On 4/13/2012 01:44, Ross McKay wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:06:10 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

>
> "There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about
> and the ones nobody uses." -- Bjarne Stroustrup

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On 04/17/2012 05:43 AM, Bogdan Ribic wrote:
> Where's the "Like" button on this list? :)
>
>
> On 4/13/2012 01:44, Ross McKay wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:06:10 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
>
>>
>> "There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about
>> and the ones nobody uses." -- Bjarne Stroustrup
>

a simple +1 will do

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[snip]
> a simple +1 will do
[/snip]

Ah....the good old days.

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