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Re: [PHP] Top/bottom posting holy war *cringe* (was: New to PHP)

Posted by TG 
I concede only that the PHP list has a requested style (bottom posting). I
disagree on it's usefulness OVER top posting.

I'm perfectly able to read top or bottom posted messages with nearly equal
fluidity. I find top posting to be more fluid and useful. I've never
quite sure why this becomes a holy war. Why can't some people do it one
way and others do it the other way? It's nice when everyone does it the
same way, but with the indenting/prefixing lines of replies, it's easy
enough to see what the last message was that the current top or bottom
posted reply goes to.

Because this is such a hot button issue, I cringed when I saw it brought up
as a response to a new member saying "Hi" and looking for PHP coding
recommendations because it always leads to these discussions. No good can
come of even discussing it or bringing it up except to show people who
aren't aware, that there IS a choice in the matter.



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On Monday 13 October 2008 13:44:27 TG wrote:
> I concede only that the PHP list has a requested style (bottom posting). I
> disagree on it's usefulness OVER top posting.
>

So, this is the only list that you read.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TG [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:44 AM
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Top/bottom posting holy war *cringe* (was: New to
> PHP)
>
> I concede only that the PHP list has a requested style (bottom
> posting). I
> disagree on it's usefulness OVER top posting.
>
> I'm perfectly able to read top or bottom posted messages with nearly
> equal
> fluidity. I find top posting to be more fluid and useful. I've never
> quite sure why this becomes a holy war. Why can't some people do it
> one
> way and others do it the other way? It's nice when everyone does it
> the
> same way, but with the indenting/prefixing lines of replies, it's easy
> enough to see what the last message was that the current top or bottom
> posted reply goes to.
>
> Because this is such a hot button issue, I cringed when I saw it
> brought up
> as a response to a new member saying "Hi" and looking for PHP coding
> recommendations because it always leads to these discussions. No good
> can
> come of even discussing it or bringing it up except to show people who
> aren't aware, that there IS a choice in the matter.

So.. you concede to ignore the requested style, then?

As for near-equal fluidity.. I don't believe you. Plainly and simply, I
do not believe your claim. That is, of course, unless you've been
reading bottom-to-top since you were a child in some bizarre psychology
experiment placed on your shoulders by your parents...

It boils down to this: if you've been participating in the discussion
adamantly, then yes--top posting probably won't throw you off. However,
for people who are jumping in the middle (perhaps they saw a keyword
related to something they are working on, or they just joined the list,
etc.) it can become quite confusing. This is a mailing list. On top of
that (no pun intended), it is a public mailing list. As such, there will
be many individuals reading conversations without having been around for
the start of them.

More confusing still is the "some do it this way, some do it that way"
proposal you have issued. When messages are replied to using both
conventions, the flow of the conversation looks like a seismic gauge
during an earthquake.


Todd Boyd
Web Programmer

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