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Sara Golemon
[PHP-DEV] PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 13, 2018 12:00AM
So, I woke up this morning and looked at my calendar, and I realized
we're less than two months away from a timely release of 7.3.0-alpha1.
This is somewhat awkward as we currently lack named Release Managers
for the 7.3 branch.

As usual, the role calls for two suckers^W volunteers to take on this
task. Whomsoever is elected will be guided and helped by Remi and I,
as well as previous RMs and the excellent documentation in
php-src:README.RELEASE_PROCESS.

Candidates should have a reasonable knowledge of internals (without
necessarily being a C guru), be confident about merging pull requests
without breaking backward compatibility, doing triage for bugs,
liaising with previous release managers, and generally getting the
branch in good shape, as these are among the activities you will be
undertaking as release manager.

Please put your name forward here if you wish to be considered a candidate.
An initial todo page has been added to the wiki and contains
provisional dates for GA and pre-releases.
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73

-Sara

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Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 13, 2018 01:30AM
2018-04-12 23:56 GMT+02:00 Sara Golemon <[email protected]>:
> Please put your name forward here if you wish to be considered a candidate.
> An initial todo page has been added to the wiki and contains
> provisional dates for GA and pre-releases.

Dream team wish: Nikita & Christoph


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Sara Golemon
Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 13, 2018 03:40AM
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 19:34, Haralan Dobrev <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 at 00:56 Sara Golemon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > An initial todo page has been added to the wiki and contains provisional dates for GA and pre-releases.
> > https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73
>
> The timetable mentions PHP 7.2 instead of PHP 7.3.
>
RMs should also demonstrate excellent attention to detail!
Sara Golemon
[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 19, 2018 05:10PM
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Sara Golemon <pollit[email protected]> wrote:
> So, I woke up this morning and looked at my calendar, and I realized
> we're less than two months away from a timely release of 7.3.0-alpha1.
> This is somewhat awkward as we currently lack named Release Managers
> for the 7.3 branch.
>
> As usual, the role calls for two suckers^W volunteers to take on this
> task. Whomsoever is elected will be guided and helped by Remi and I,
> as well as previous RMs and the excellent documentation in
> php-src:README.RELEASE_PROCESS.
>
> Candidates should have a reasonable knowledge of internals (without
> necessarily being a C guru), be confident about merging pull requests
> without breaking backward compatibility, doing triage for bugs,
> liaising with previous release managers, and generally getting the
> branch in good shape, as these are among the activities you will be
> undertaking as release manager.
>
> Please put your name forward here if you wish to be considered a candidate.
> An initial todo page has been added to the wiki and contains
> provisional dates for GA and pre-releases.
> https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73
>

Topic bump as nobody has tossed their hat in yet. There's some time
left before the pre-release cycle starts, but it'd be nice to have
some names before it gets down to the line.

Kalle voluntold Nikita and Christoph, could those two respond with
either "Yeah sure" or "No thanks"?

-Sara

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Gabriel Caruso
Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 19, 2018 07:10PM
I’m with Kalle here, Nikita and Christoph :)
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Christoph M. Becker
[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 19, 2018 11:40PM
On 19.04.2018 at 17:00, Sara Golemon wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Sara Golemon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So, I woke up this morning and looked at my calendar, and I realized
>> we're less than two months away from a timely release of 7.3.0-alpha1.
>> This is somewhat awkward as we currently lack named Release Managers
>> for the 7.3 branch.
>>
>> As usual, the role calls for two suckers^W volunteers to take on this
>> task. Whomsoever is elected will be guided and helped by Remi and I,
>> as well as previous RMs and the excellent documentation in
>> php-src:README.RELEASE_PROCESS.
>>
>> Candidates should have a reasonable knowledge of internals (without
>> necessarily being a C guru), be confident about merging pull requests
>> without breaking backward compatibility, doing triage for bugs,
>> liaising with previous release managers, and generally getting the
>> branch in good shape, as these are among the activities you will be
>> undertaking as release manager.
>>
>> Please put your name forward here if you wish to be considered a candidate.
>> An initial todo page has been added to the wiki and contains
>> provisional dates for GA and pre-releases.
>> https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73
>
> Topic bump as nobody has tossed their hat in yet. There's some time
> left before the pre-release cycle starts, but it'd be nice to have
> some names before it gets down to the line.
>
> Kalle voluntold Nikita and Christoph, could those two respond with
> either "Yeah sure" or "No thanks"?

Well, I'm pretty sure that there are more suitable RMs than myself, and
I'm not fond of committing myself to regular and important voluntary
work for several years, but "yeah sure", if nobody else steps forward,
I'll do my best to serve as one of the PHP 7.3 RMs (I certainly couldn't
do it alone).

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Anatol Belski
Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 24, 2018 06:50PM
On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:30 +0200, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> On 19.04.2018 at 17:00, Sara Golemon wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Sara Golemon <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So, I woke up this morning and looked at my calendar, and I
> > > realized
> > > we're less than two months away from a timely release of 7.3.0-
> > > alpha1.
> > > This is somewhat awkward as we currently lack named Release
> > > Managers
> > > for the 7.3 branch.
> > >
> > > As usual, the role calls for two suckers^W volunteers to take on
> > > this
> > > task. Whomsoever is elected will be guided and helped by Remi and
> > > I,
> > > as well as previous RMs and the excellent documentation in
> > > php-src:README.RELEASE_PROCESS.
> > >
> > > Candidates should have a reasonable knowledge of internals
> > > (without
> > > necessarily being a C guru), be confident about merging pull
> > > requests
> > > without breaking backward compatibility, doing triage for bugs,
> > > liaising with previous release managers, and generally getting
> > > the
> > > branch in good shape, as these are among the activities you will
> > > be
> > > undertaking as release manager.
> > >
> > > Please put your name forward here if you wish to be considered a
> > > candidate.
> > > An initial todo page has been added to the wiki and contains
> > > provisional dates for GA and pre-releases.
> > > https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73
> >
> > Topic bump as nobody has tossed their hat in yet. There's some
> > time
> > left before the pre-release cycle starts, but it'd be nice to have
> > some names before it gets down to the line.
> >
> > Kalle voluntold Nikita and Christoph, could those two respond with
> > either "Yeah sure" or "No thanks"?
>
> Well, I'm pretty sure that there are more suitable RMs than myself,
IMO you're one of those persons suitable for the RM role. Based on your
activities and contributions.

> and
> I'm not fond of committing myself to regular and important voluntary
> work for several years, but "yeah sure", if nobody else steps
> forward,
>
That's why it makes sense to have a duo team. But also other RMs can
jump in, if necessary. Whereby yes, it would engage you for some longer
term :)

Regards

Anatol
Pasindu De Silva
Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 24, 2018 07:10PM
I Couldn't Agree With Anatol any More

Some days my docs/bugs mailing list is more of a cmb@php.net mailing list
:).

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:41 AM, Anatol Belski <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:30 +0200, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> > On 19.04.2018 at 17:00, Sara Golemon wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Sara Golemon <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > So, I woke up this morning and looked at my calendar, and I
> > > > realized
> > > > we're less than two months away from a timely release of 7.3.0-
> > > > alpha1.
> > > > This is somewhat awkward as we currently lack named Release
> > > > Managers
> > > > for the 7.3 branch.
> > > >
> > > > As usual, the role calls for two suckers^W volunteers to take on
> > > > this
> > > > task. Whomsoever is elected will be guided and helped by Remi and
> > > > I,
> > > > as well as previous RMs and the excellent documentation in
> > > > php-src:README.RELEASE_PROCESS.
> > > >
> > > > Candidates should have a reasonable knowledge of internals
> > > > (without
> > > > necessarily being a C guru), be confident about merging pull
> > > > requests
> > > > without breaking backward compatibility, doing triage for bugs,
> > > > liaising with previous release managers, and generally getting
> > > > the
> > > > branch in good shape, as these are among the activities you will
> > > > be
> > > > undertaking as release manager.
> > > >
> > > > Please put your name forward here if you wish to be considered a
> > > > candidate.
> > > > An initial todo page has been added to the wiki and contains
> > > > provisional dates for GA and pre-releases.
> > > > https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73
> > >
> > > Topic bump as nobody has tossed their hat in yet. There's some
> > > time
> > > left before the pre-release cycle starts, but it'd be nice to have
> > > some names before it gets down to the line.
> > >
> > > Kalle voluntold Nikita and Christoph, could those two respond with
> > > either "Yeah sure" or "No thanks"?
> >
> > Well, I'm pretty sure that there are more suitable RMs than myself,
> IMO you're one of those persons suitable for the RM role. Based on your
> activities and contributions.
>
> > and
> > I'm not fond of committing myself to regular and important voluntary
> > work for several years, but "yeah sure", if nobody else steps
> > forward,
> >
> That's why it makes sense to have a duo team. But also other RMs can
> jump in, if necessary. Whereby yes, it would engage you for some longer
> term :)
>
> Regards
>
> Anatol
>
>


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Sara Golemon
[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 24, 2018 08:00PM
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Sara Golemon <[email protected]> wrote:
> Please put your name forward here if you wish to be considered a candidate.
> An initial todo page has been added to the wiki and contains
> provisional dates for GA and pre-releases.
> https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73
>
With 7.3.0-alpha1's date on June 7th I'd like to have RMs confirmed by
mid-May. To that end, I'm placing a deadline on nomination/acceptance
of April 30th and will be opening the vote (assuming we have more than
2) on May 1st.

At the moment, cmb is the only confirmed candidate, though I have
promises from Derick Rethans that he'll step up as the second half of
a team (and experienced RM, even if not recent) should that prove
necessary.

I want to encourage anyone who is "on the fence" or worried they won't
be able to pull it off to just go for it. We have a large group of
active, experienced RMs, a decent supply of tooling, a surprising
amount of documentation, and if circumstances change and you just
can't do the job a year from now, that's no problem. We can reshuffle
teams and/or provide temporary support between versions (For example,
I put out 7.1.13 and 7.1.14 because Davey and Joe both had
obligations, and that was fine).

PHP is your language.

-Sara

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Stanislav Malyshev
Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 24, 2018 09:10PM
Hi!

> I want to encourage anyone who is "on the fence" or worried they won't
> be able to pull it off to just go for it. We have a large group of
> active, experienced RMs, a decent supply of tooling, a surprising
> amount of documentation, and if circumstances change and you just
> can't do the job a year from now, that's no problem. We can reshuffle
> teams and/or provide temporary support between versions (For example,
> I put out 7.1.13 and 7.1.14 because Davey and Joe both had
> obligations, and that was fine).

I could help as secondary RM if needed.

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Joe Watkins
Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
April 24, 2018 10:00PM
Evening Sara,

You forgot to mention the free cake you get for being an RM ...

Cheers
Joe

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> > I want to encourage anyone who is "on the fence" or worried they won't
> > be able to pull it off to just go for it. We have a large group of
> > active, experienced RMs, a decent supply of tooling, a surprising
> > amount of documentation, and if circumstances change and you just
> > can't do the job a year from now, that's no problem. We can reshuffle
> > teams and/or provide temporary support between versions (For example,
> > I put out 7.1.13 and 7.1.14 because Davey and Joe both had
> > obligations, and that was fine).
>
> I could help as secondary RM if needed.
>
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> smalyshev@gmail.com
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Sara Golemon
[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
May 01, 2018 08:30PM
On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Sara Golemon <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Sara Golemon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Please put your name forward here if you wish to be considered a candidate.
>> An initial todo page has been added to the wiki and contains
>> provisional dates for GA and pre-releases.
>> https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73
>>
> With 7.3.0-alpha1's date on June 7th I'd like to have RMs confirmed by
> mid-May. To that end, I'm placing a deadline on nomination/acceptance
> of April 30th and will be opening the vote (assuming we have more than
> 2) on May 1st.
>
Whelp! It's May day, and cmb and stas are the only official volunteers
(Derick has withdrawn his offer to step in since Stas is available).
With only two candidates, there's no need for a vote.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you your PHP 7.3 Release Managers:
Christoph M. Becker and Stanislav Malyshev

-Sara

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Markus Fischer
Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
May 02, 2018 06:10AM
On 01.05.18 20:19, Sara Golemon wrote:
>> With 7.3.0-alpha1's date on June 7th I'd like to have RMs confirmed by
>> mid-May. To that end, I'm placing a deadline on nomination/acceptance
>> of April 30th and will be opening the vote (assuming we have more than
>> 2) on May 1st.
>>
> Whelp! It's May day, and cmb and stas are the only official volunteers
> (Derick has withdrawn his offer to step in since Stas is available).
> With only two candidates, there's no need for a vote.
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I give you your PHP 7.3 Release Managers:
> Christoph M. Becker and Stanislav Malyshev

Thank You! \o/

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Rasmus Lerdorf
Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.3 Release Manager Selection
May 03, 2018 12:30AM
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Sara Golemon <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Sara Golemon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Sara Golemon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Please put your name forward here if you wish to be considered a
> candidate.
> >> An initial todo page has been added to the wiki and contains
> >> provisional dates for GA and pre-releases.
> >> https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73
> >>
> > With 7.3.0-alpha1's date on June 7th I'd like to have RMs confirmed by
> > mid-May. To that end, I'm placing a deadline on nomination/acceptance
> > of April 30th and will be opening the vote (assuming we have more than
> > 2) on May 1st.
> >
> Whelp! It's May day, and cmb and stas are the only official volunteers
> (Derick has withdrawn his offer to step in since Stas is available).
> With only two candidates, there's no need for a vote.
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I give you your PHP 7.3 Release Managers:
> Christoph M. Becker and Stanislav Malyshev


Sounds like a great team. Thanks for volunteering, guys.

-Rasmus
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